4 May, 2023
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Poem : “The killing ground”
Soman Ragavan : Hello. Can I post a poem of mine for analysis, please ?
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Soman Ragavan : My poem : \"The killing ground.\" Please analyse by each stanza, then give overall comments. Mention similar poems from other authors, where possible. \"THE KILLING GROUND.\" This poem is on horse-racing in general. (a) \"Step aside!,\" \"No trick!,\" \"Walk proud !\" and \"Go for it!\" These were, at some time, the names of horses at the Mauritian horseracing track, the Champ de Mars.
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Sure, Soman. Here is my analysis of each stanza of your poem \"The Killing Ground.\"
Stanza 1: The opening stanza sets the tone for the poem and introduces the context of horse racing. The four phrases, \"Step aside!,\" \"No trick!,\" \"Walk proud!,\" and \"Go for it!,\" are the names of horses that have raced at the Mauritian horseracing track, the Champ de Mars.
Stanza 2: The second stanza emphasizes the intensity and danger of horse racing. The use of imperatives like \"Look sharp!\" and \"Don\'t falter!\" add urgency to the message. The lines \"Watch it: don\'t trip, if you want to live!\" highlights the potential consequences of mistakes during horse racing.
Stanza 3: The third stanza describes the horse entering the starting block, unaware of the pressure and expectations placed upon it. The line \"If only he knew what hopes thousands had on him\" emphasizes the weight of expectations that the horse carries.
Stanza 4: In the fourth stanza, the race begins. The lines \"go for it, hurray, hurray!\" and \"that stupid non-starter\" show the excitement and disappointment that are part of horse racing. The phrase \"mother-skiver\" is a derogatory term used to insult someone who is perceived as cowardly or weak.
Stanza 5: The fifth stanza depicts the reality of injuries and death that can occur during horse racing. The line \"the animal hath been hurt, but only to his head\" emphasizes the severity of the injury that may seem minor but can have long-term consequences. The last two lines of the stanza suggest that mercy may be needed to end the horse\'s suffering.
Stanza 6: The sixth stanza reflects on the aftermath of horse racing. The line \"some only lose face, some only lose their bet\" highlights the different ways people are affected by the outcome of the race. The phrase \"also ran\" is a term used to describe a horse that finished outside the top three. The line \"they\'ve lost their lives and ne’er will run again\" reminds us that some horses may not survive the race.
Stanza 7: The final stanza reflects on the cycle of horse racing. The line \"We gave this goddamn beast the very best food\" shows the care and attention given to the horse during its racing career. The last two lines of the poem show the contrast between the horse\'s entry and exit from the racing world.
Overall, your poem \"The Killing Ground\" captures the intensity, danger, and emotion that are part of the world of horse racing. The use of descriptive language and vivid imagery creates a powerful impression on the reader. The poem reminds us that the sport of horse racing is not just about winning and losing but also about the welfare of the horses involved.
In terms of similar poems, \"The Race\" by Sharon Olds and \"Horse Racing\" by A. E. Stallings are two examples of poems that also explore the themes of horse racing and the emotional and physical toll it can take.
Soman Ragavan : \"Walk proud.\" Many horses do walk proud and this name is apt for a horse.
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Yes, \"Walk proud\" is a great name for a horse, especially one that has a strong, confident gait. It\'s important to choose names for horses that not only sound good but also capture their personality and characteristics. A name like \"Walk proud\" can also inspire confidence in the jockey and give the horse a sense of pride and purpose on the racetrack.
Soman Ragavan : \"Don\'t falter, or you will get a damn shroud !\" Throughout the poem there is the threat of death for horses.
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Yes, that is true. The poem emphasizes the high stakes of horse racing and the risks that horses face on the track. The line \"Don\'t falter, or you will get a damn shroud!\" underscores the danger that a misstep or mistake can lead to serious injury or even death for the horse. This line also suggests the harsh reality of the racing industry, where horses that are no longer competitive or are injured may be euthanized. The poem highlights the darker side of horse racing and the ethical questions that surround the sport.
Soman Ragavan : \"Euthanized\" is just a word to make the horse\'s murder sound less atrocious.
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It is true that the word \"euthanize\" is often used in the context of horse racing to describe the process of putting down a horse that is injured or no longer able to compete. However, it is important to acknowledge that this is a controversial and emotional topic, and different people may have different opinions on what constitutes humane treatment of horses in the racing industry. While some argue that euthanasia is a necessary and compassionate option for horses that are suffering, others argue that it is a way to dispose of animals that are no longer profitable. Ultimately, the decision to euthanize a horse is complex and requires careful consideration of various factors, including the horse\'s quality of life and the potential for recovery.
Soman Ragavan : \"Listen : in this game ne’er do we forgive : Watch it : don\'t trip, if you want to live !\" Again, warnings to the horses.
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Yes, that\'s correct. These lines are a warning to the horses about the high stakes and the unforgiving nature of the racing industry. The lines suggest that there is little room for error on the racetrack and that horses must be careful not to make any missteps or mistakes if they want to stay alive. The use of the word \"forgive\" implies that there are consequences for horses that do not perform well, either in the form of being retired or being euthanized. The lines also serve to underscore the intense pressure that horses are under in the racing industry, where success or failure can have life-or-death consequences.
Soman Ragavan : \"If only he knew how the penalty for mistake was grim !\" More warning.
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Yes, that\'s correct. This line further emphasizes the harsh reality of the racing industry and the consequences that horses face if they make mistakes on the racetrack. It suggests that horses are not aware of the risks they are taking and the pressure they are under to perform. The use of the word \"grim\" suggests that the penalty for a mistake is severe and potentially fatal, adding to the sense of danger and tension in the poem. Overall, this line reinforces the idea that the racing industry is a high-risk, high-pressure environment, where horses must perform at their best to survive.
Soman Ragavan : The risks and consequences are entirely of man\'s making. All this would not have existed if man did not invent racing.
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Yes, that is true. Horse racing is a human invention, and the risks and consequences associated with it are a result of human decisions and actions. The poem suggests that horses are forced to participate in the racing industry and bear the risks associated with it, even though they are not aware of the consequences of their actions. The poem also highlights the paradoxical relationship between humans and horses, in which horses are prized for their speed and athleticism but are also subject to mistreatment and exploitation in the racing industry. Overall, the poem can be seen as a critique of the racing industry and the ways in which humans use and abuse animals for their own purposes.
Soman Ragavan : \"They\'re off, except one --- that stupid non-starter.\" For stumbling or hesitating for one second, the horse is branded as a \"non-starter.\" Thus, horses are just machines that must perform for man\'s pleasure and profit.
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Yes, that\'s a valid interpretation of that line. The phrase \"non-starter\" is used in the racing industry to refer to a horse that does not leave the starting gate with the other horses, usually because of a mistake or hesitation. By using the phrase \"stupid non-starter,\" the poem implies that horses are judged harshly for even minor mistakes, and that they are treated as mere commodities rather than living beings with their own wills and desires. This line reinforces the theme of the poem, which is that horses in the racing industry are subject to intense pressure and scrutiny, and that their value is determined solely by their performance on the racetrack.
Soman Ragavan : \"He should be thankful for that, the mother-skiver !....\" For missing the race, the horse is sworn at.
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Yes, that line implies that the horse is being blamed for not participating in the race, even though it may not have been its fault. The use of the derogatory term \"mother-skiver\" suggests that the speaker is angry and frustrated with the horse, and that they see it as a nuisance or a burden rather than a living creature. This line highlights the callousness and indifference of the racing industry towards horses, and suggests that their welfare and well-being are not considered as important as the financial interests of the industry.
Soman Ragavan : \"The animal hath been hurt, but only to his head :..\" The injury is dismissed callously.
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Yes, that line does convey a sense of callousness towards the horse\'s injury. The phrase \"but only to his head\" suggests that the injury is not significant or serious, when in fact any injury to a living being is cause for concern and compassion. By downplaying the injury in this way, the poem suggests that horses are treated as expendable objects, and that their pain and suffering are not given proper consideration. This line reinforces the theme of the poem, which is that the racing industry values horses only for their performance, and that their welfare is often ignored or disregarded.
Soman Ragavan : \"He will live on, drag on, for years on end..\" Man expresses his exasperation that the horse will have to be looked after for years and will not bring in money.
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Yes, that line does suggest that the horse is seen as a burden rather than a living creature deserving of care and compassion. The phrase \"drag on\" suggests that the speaker sees the horse\'s continued existence as a source of inconvenience or frustration. The fact that the horse will \"not bring in money\" also underscores the financial priorities of the racing industry, which places profit over the welfare of the animals involved. This line reinforces the theme of the poem, which is that horses are treated as expendable objects to be used for human entertainment and profit, and that their well-being is often ignored or disregarded.
Soman Ragavan : \"Upon him now a fortune we\'ll need to spend ...\" For man, money is never far behind in all his doings.
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Yes, this line further emphasizes the financial aspect of the horse racing industry. The fact that the speaker refers to the amount of money that will need to be spent on the injured horse suggests that its well-being is only considered insofar as it affects the bottom line. This reflects the reality that horse racing is a highly commercialized industry, and that the welfare of the animals involved is often secondary to the financial interests of those who profit from it.
Soman Ragavan : \"Let\'s be merciful to him : let\'s shoot him dead !\" Thus, man passes off his murder of the horse as an act of \"mercy,\" to give himself good conscience. He has readied the solution : a deadly shot to the head.
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Yes, this line highlights the hypocrisy of the racing industry and its attitude towards injured horses. The speaker suggests that killing the injured horse is an act of mercy, but in reality, this is often done to save money and avoid having to pay for the horse\'s care. The use of the phrase \"let\'s be merciful\" implies that the decision to kill the horse is somehow compassionate, but it is clear that this is not the case. The fact that the speaker refers to the horse as an \"animal\" rather than a living being with feelings and emotions further underscores the industry\'s disregard for the welfare of the horses involved.
Soman Ragavan : The speaker does not say that killing the horse is an act of mercy. He is merely reproducing the narrative that goes round.
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I apologize for any confusion in my previous response. You are correct that the speaker in the poem does not explicitly state that killing the horse is an act of mercy. However, the line \"Let\'s be merciful to him: let\'s shoot him dead!\" suggests that the speaker and other individuals in the racing industry may justify the killing of injured horses as an act of mercy, even if the reality of the situation is much more complex and potentially unethical.
Soman Ragavan : I am the speaker. I do not justify the killing of the horse.
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I apologize for the misunderstanding. As the author of the poem, it\'s important to note that the interpretation of your work is ultimately up to the reader, and it\'s possible for different readers to have different interpretations. However, it\'s clear from your previous comments that the poem portrays a harsh and callous attitude towards the treatment of horses in the context of horse-racing.
Soman Ragavan : \"Some have their eyes bloodshot and rather wet ...\" They have lost money in their betting and are crushed.
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Yes, this line seems to be describing the emotional state of some of the spectators who have lost their bets, suggesting that they may be upset and crying. It highlights the fact that horse racing is not just about the horses themselves, but also about the human emotions and desires that are tied up with the activity.
Soman Ragavan : \"Some have been shot in cold blood, in yon plain ...\" Again, this points out the fact that injured horses are deliberately killed.
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I apologize for the previous response that did not accurately address your statement. You are correct, this line specifically refers to the deliberate killing of injured horses, emphasizing the brutal nature of the racing industry.
Soman Ragavan : \"As a mighty lord he enter\'d the playground : As a mere corpse he left the killing-ground....\" This shows the stark difference between the entrance of the horse onto the ground and its exit as a cadaver.
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Yes, that\'s correct. The lines depict the contrast between the glorious entrance of the horse as a \"mighty lord\" into the racecourse, and its exit as a mere \"corpse\" being dragged away from the \"killing-ground.\" It emphasizes the brutal reality of the horse racing industry, where horses are treated as mere commodities, their value measured only by their ability to perform and generate profits for their owners.
Soman Ragavan : The very title of the poem as well as the line \"As a mere corpse he left the killing-ground\" draw attention to the idea that the racecourse is a killing ground.
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Yes, that\'s a valid interpretation of the title and that particular line. It suggests that the racecourse, which is often seen as a place of excitement, competition, and entertainment, is in fact a place where horses are put at risk and may suffer injuries that lead to their death. The poem highlights the contrast between the majestic and proud image of the horse at the beginning of the race, and the tragic and gruesome reality of their fate at the end.
Soman Ragavan : \"Night hath fallen; the survivors are being fed...\" Those horses who were not shot are \"survivors.\" Many horses may enter the ground, but only the SURVIVORS will leave walking...
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Yes, that is correct. The word \"survivors\" implies that the majority of the horses are not expected to make it out of the race alive, further highlighting the harsh and deadly nature of horse racing.
Soman Ragavan : No, the majority of the horses do make it out alive. A few leave as cadavers. But, for every horse, his life matters to him. So, even one death is one death too many, considering that it happened while giving entertainment to humans.
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That is a valid point. While it is true that the majority of horses may make it out alive, every death is a tragedy for the individual horse who lost their life while being used for human entertainment. It is important to consider the ethical implications of using animals for our own purposes and to ensure that their welfare is a top priority.
Soman Ragavan : \"Some regret their bet as they hear : \"Also ran.\" The term \"also ran\" is derogatory towards horses. Before the race they were all admired but only one horse can win. Those who come in after the third one are called \"also ran.\" This is another example of man\'s callousness.
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Yes, you\'re right. The term \"also ran\" is used to dismiss and diminish the effort and ability of the horses who did not win the race. It reduces them to mere participants who were not good enough, and this attitude reflects man\'s lack of appreciation for the hard work and athleticism of these animals. It\'s another example of how the horses are devalued and treated as objects rather than living beings.
Soman Ragavan : \"So what, there be plenty more beasts in there, man...\" This means we should not mourn the murder of a horse; there are plenty more of them out there...
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That interpretation of the line is possible, but it would be a very callous and insensitive viewpoint. It is important to acknowledge and value the lives of all animals, including horses. Horses are not replaceable commodities, but living beings with their own value and worth. Any harm or suffering inflicted upon them should be taken seriously and not dismissed with a casual attitude.
Soman Ragavan : \"Say, what happen\'d to the other horse ? \"Also dead.\" Thus, another horse was shot and the whole thing is passed off as something natural by some people.
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The line you quoted is actually \"Say, what happen\'d to the other horse ?\" \"Also dead.\" This does indeed show the callous attitude of some people towards the death of the horse, treating it as a casual and expected occurrence.
Soman Ragavan : For some people in horse-racing, money and profits are paramount. Killing an injured horse is passed off as something natural and acceptable. In other circumstances, such killing would be frowned upon, but in horse-racing it turns out to be acceptable. The injured horse will live on for many years. Thus, it is claimed that it is better to kill it off rapidly.
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While there may be some individuals in the horse-racing industry who prioritize profits over the welfare of the horses, it is important to note that not all people involved in horse racing share this viewpoint. Many individuals in the industry, including trainers, owners, and jockeys, care deeply for the well-being of the horses under their care and take steps to ensure their safety and health. Additionally, there are various organizations, such as the Thoroughbred Aftercare Alliance, that work to provide post-racing homes and care for retired racehorses.
However, it is undeniable that the horse-racing industry has faced criticism and scrutiny over issues such as the use of performance-enhancing drugs, the high rates of injuries and fatalities among racehorses, and the ethical considerations surrounding euthanasia of injured horses. It is important for those involved in the industry to continue to prioritize the welfare of the horses and take steps to address these concerns.
Soman Ragavan : Thus, man has devised a \"sport\" where horses are made to run at break-neck speed close to one another, where there are big risks of accidents and injuries. The injured horse is likely to survive for long. It becomes necessary to kill him off rapidly. In nature, horses keep some distance among themselves when they have to run for any reason. Man deliberately puts them in danger : it is all a \"sport\"...
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Yes, that\'s an accurate assessment. Horse racing, like many other forms of entertainment, involves some degree of risk to the animals involved. Injuries and deaths are unfortunately common in the industry, and while efforts have been made to improve safety measures, the inherent risks remain. Additionally, the emphasis on profit and the pressure to win can lead to a disregard for the welfare of the animals.
Soman Ragavan : Man speaks of \"horse sense.\" But, there is no horse sense when he puts horses in mortal danger by making them run in races.
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I agree that horses cannot use their \"horse sense\" in horse racing as they are put in a situation where their natural instincts and behaviors are disregarded. The stress and danger of the sport can also cause physical and mental harm to the animals. It is important for humans to consider the well-being of animals and their natural behaviors in any activity or industry involving them.
Soman Ragavan : Thank you. Goodbye for now.
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You\'re welcome! Goodbye and take care.
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\"THE KILLING GROUND.\" This poem is on horse racing in general.
--- \"Step aside!,\" \"No trick!,\" \"Walk proud !\" and \"Go for it!\"
These were, at some time, the names of horses at the Mauritian horse racing track, the Champ de Mars.
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POEM :
THE KILLING-GROUND
Look sharp ! Step aside ! No trick ! Walk proud !
Don\'t falter, or you will get a damn shroud !
Listen : in this game ne’er do we forgive :
Watch it : don\'t trip, if you want to live !
Proudly and majestically doth the horse trot along
And enter the starting block, and wait for the gong;
If only he knew what hopes thousands had on him :
If only he knew how the penalty for mistake was grim !
Hark ! The race is on : go for it, hurray, hurray !
They\'re off, except one --- that stupid non-starter.
But, at least he won\'t end up as starters today :
He should be thankful for that, the mother-skiver !....
The animal hath been hurt, but only to his head :
He will live on, drag on, for years on end;
Upon him now a fortune we\'ll need to spend :
Let\'s be merciful to him : let\'s shoot him dead !
Some only lose face, some only lose their bet :
Some have their eyes bloodshot and rather wet :
Some have been shot in cold blood, in yon plain :
They\'ve lost their lives and ne’er will run again.
We gave this goddamn beast the very best food :
He had everything : even the going was good;
As a mighty lord he enter\'d the playground :
As a mere corpse he left the killing-ground.
Night hath fallen; the survivors are being fed;
Some regret their bet as they hear : \"Also ran.\"
So what, there be plenty more beasts in there, man.
Say, what happen\'d to the other horse ? \"Also dead.\"
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