Poem : 'The octopus' ; 4 April, 2023.

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Poem “The octopus.”

Soman Ragavan : Hello. Can I post a poem of mine for analysis, please ?

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Soman Ragavan : My poem : "The octopus." Please analyse by each stanza, then give overall comments. Mention similar poems from other authors, where possible. THE OCTOPUS

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Sure, let's analyze your poem "The Octopus" stanza by stanza and then provide an overall comment.

Stanza 1: The opening stanza sets the tone of the poem and describes the cold, blue eyes of the fisherman scanning the endless sea. The repetition of "cold, blue" creates a sense of emptiness and starkness. The stanza ends with the fisherman's quiet and calculated demeanor, suggesting a sense of determination.

Stanza 2: This stanza describes the hunter's preparation for the hunt, emphasizing his focus and vigilance. The imagery of the harpoon and bottle of water on the boat floor creates a sense of simplicity and starkness, suggesting the harshness of the environment in which the fisherman operates.

Stanza 3: This stanza describes the hunter's approach, quietly gliding through the water, searching for the octopus. The imagery of the fisherman lowering his head towards the water creates a sense of intimacy with the sea, suggesting the hunter's close relationship with his environment.

Stanza 4: The stanza builds tension as the hunter spots the octopus and prepares for the hunt. The repetition of "slowly and stealthily" creates a sense of suspense and anticipation, while the description of the octopus swaying with the water adds to the feeling of danger.

Stanza 5: This stanza describes the actual battle between the hunter and the octopus. The imagery of the octopus's tentacles shivering and unfurling, combined with the fisherman's poised stance, creates a sense of intensity and violence. The stanza ends with a warning about the fragility of the situation, suggesting the need for extreme caution.

Stanza 6: This stanza describes the hunter's victory and the octopus's defeat. The imagery of the harpoon striking the creature with devastating precision creates a sense of finality and sadness.

Stanza 7: The stanza describes the aftermath of the hunt, as the octopus struggles in the boat. The fisherman's mixed feelings of joy and sadness create a sense of conflict and moral ambiguity.

Stanza 8: This stanza describes the octopus's natural camouflage and suggests the creature's mastery of its environment. The imagery of the bubbles and swirling curls creates a sense of motion and fluidity.

Stanza 9: The stanza reflects on the cruelty of the food chain and the unfairness of the octopus's fate. The imagery of the fisherman turning away suggests a sense of guilt or shame.

Stanza 10: This stanza reflects on the larger struggle between humanity and the natural world. The octopus is portrayed as a formidable opponent, with a "calculating intellect" and "terrific might."

Overall, your poem "The Octopus" is a well-crafted and engaging piece that draws the reader in with its vivid imagery and intense emotions. The poem captures the harshness and beauty of the natural world, and the struggle between humanity and nature. The octopus is portrayed as a powerful and intelligent creature, capable of outwitting its human opponents. The poem is reminiscent of other works that explore the relationship between humans and nature, such as Robert Frost's "Mending Wall" and Elizabeth Bishop's "The Fish."
 
Soman Ragavan : Stanza 10 : It is the human who is the highest calculating intellect.

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Thank you for the clarification. I apologize for the misunderstanding. In that case, I believe the poem is highlighting the intelligence and strategic abilities of both the octopus and the fisherman, who engage in a battle of wits to outsmart each other. The line "With the highest calculating intellect" may refer to the fisherman's ability to plan and strategize in order to catch the octopus. However, it's worth noting that the octopus is also portrayed as a highly intelligent creature with its own set of skills and tactics. Overall, the poem seems to suggest that there is a kind of fierce competition between humans and the natural world, and that both sides are capable of impressive feats of intellect and cunning.
 
Soman Ragavan : The fisherman feels both satisfaction at having captured the octopus and sadness at killing the creature. Is there comparison with Coleridge's "Rhyme of the ancient mariner" ?

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Yes, there is a similarity between the fisherman's mixed feelings and the theme of guilt in Coleridge's "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner." In both poems, the protagonist experiences a sense of responsibility for killing a creature that is seen as a natural wonder. In "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner," the mariner kills an albatross, and then experiences a sense of guilt that ultimately leads him to seek redemption. Similarly, in "The Octopus," the fisherman is conflicted about his victory over the creature and experiences a mix of emotions as he reflects on the outcome of his hunt.
Both poems also highlight the complexity of the relationship between humans and the natural world. The fisherman and the ancient mariner both act as agents of destruction, but also show a deep appreciation for the beauty and power of the natural world. In this way, both poems illustrate the tension between the human desire to control and conquer nature, and the recognition that nature is something to be revered and respected.
 
Soman Ragavan : The fisherman and the octopus both watch each other closely, intently. The octopus never relaxes. Many times the octopus manages to flick off in the nick of time, thus getting a victory over the fisherman. Comment on such daily struggles between a human who has infinitely better intelligence and prowess and the octopus.

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The struggle between the fisherman and the octopus can be seen as a microcosm of the struggles between humans and nature that occur on a larger scale. Despite the fisherman's superior intelligence and physical strength, the octopus is still able to outmaneuver him at times. This highlights the resilience and adaptability of nature, which is often able to find ways to survive even in the face of seemingly insurmountable obstacles.
Moreover, the fact that the octopus never relaxes and is always on guard against the fisherman's attempts to capture it shows the intense will to survive that is present in all living beings. This can be seen as a reminder that we should not take the natural world for granted and should strive to preserve it for future generations.

Overall, the struggles between the fisherman and the octopus can serve as a metaphor for the larger struggles between humans and nature. It highlights the need for humans to find ways to live in harmony with the natural world rather than seeking to dominate it.
 
Soman Ragavan : In the mind of the fisherman, there is no question of giving in to the octopus. He gets his living by capturing such creatures and selling them. Each time an octopus manages to flick off, the fisherman takes it as a defeat for him. In his mind, there is no preservation of the environment.

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The fisherman's perspective in this situation is focused on his livelihood and providing for himself and his family. While it is important to consider the preservation of the environment, it may not be his top priority in this moment. It's also worth noting that many people who rely on fishing as a means of income do understand the importance of sustainable fishing practices and the need to preserve the environment for future generations. However, it can be difficult to balance the immediate need to earn a living with the long-term goal of preserving the environment. Ultimately, it is important for individuals, communities, and governments to work together to find sustainable solutions that support both economic and environmental goals.
 
Soman Ragavan : "But, soon for the poor creature 'twill be too late..." This shows the poet's sympathy for the creature.

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Yes, you are correct. The line "But, soon for the poor creature 'twill be too late..." indicates the poet's sympathy for the octopus. The use of the word "poor" conveys a sense of pity or sadness for the creature, and the phrase "too late" suggests that the octopus's fate is sealed and there is no hope for its survival. This shows that the poet recognizes the vulnerability and fragility of the natural world, and emphasizes the importance of respecting and protecting it.
 
Soman Ragavan : "And the octopus will soon be sadly moribund..." "Sadly"

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The word "sadly" in this context implies that the octopus is in a pitiful state, suffering and dying. It emphasizes the poet's empathy towards the creature and his acknowledgement of its plight. It also conveys a sense of regret, as if the poet is lamenting the fate of the octopus, which is about to die a slow and painful death.
 
Soman Ragavan : "A hundred bubbles shoot up towards the hunter..." This is symbolic. It is like the octopus saying to the hunter "What have I done to you ?"

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It is possible to interpret the image of a hundred bubbles shooting up towards the hunter as symbolic of the octopus communicating something to the hunter, such as a question or a plea for mercy. However, it is also possible that the bubbles are simply a physical reaction of the octopus as it dies, and not intended as a symbolic gesture. The interpretation of symbolism in poetry can vary depending on the reader's perspective and cultural context.
 
Soman Ragavan : "In the boat, in a colourful but sad metamorphosis..." Again the word "sad."

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The use of the word "sad" here indicates that the transformation that takes place after the octopus is caught and killed is not a happy one. The colorful and vibrant octopus has been reduced to a lifeless and unappealing form, and this transformation is something to be mourned. The juxtaposition of the bright colors and the sadness highlights the loss of the beauty and vitality of the octopus.
 
Soman Ragavan : "Lo ! Suddenly a troubl'd mixture of joy and sadness..." Again, sadness.

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Yes, throughout the poem, the poet portrays a sense of sadness and melancholy surrounding the capture and killing of the octopus. This could be seen as a reflection of the poet's own emotions or as a commentary on the impact of human actions on the environment and the creatures that inhabit it. The use of the word "sadness" and other related terms adds to the overall emotional impact of the poem and highlights the complex feelings that can arise in situations where humans interact with other living beings.
 
Soman Ragavan : "He is almost sad to see the poor octopus in tears, But, sparing the thing would have been madness..." Again sadness, but fishing appears to be a necessity.

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Yes, fishing is often a necessity for many communities, especially those who live near the sea and rely on it as a source of food and livelihood. However, the poet's repeated use of the word "sadness" suggests that he recognizes the inherent cruelty of the act of killing another living creature, even if it is necessary for survival. It also indicates that the fisherman himself feels conflicted about his actions, experiencing both satisfaction at his success and a sense of remorse or pity for the octopus.

Soman Ragavan : "Quite plainly, 'tis a matter of pain.... Should be pluck'd away from nature...." The poet is further making his point.

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Yes, the poet is expressing his opinion that the act of capturing and killing the octopus is a painful one, both for the creature and the fisherman. He suggests that humans should not interfere with nature and that it is wrong to remove living beings from their natural environment.
 
Soman Ragavan : "The fisherman turns away his blue eyes : He had to do what a fisherman had to do..." Remorse of the fisherman. Sadness of the reality of having to fish.

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Yes, the lines suggest that the fisherman feels a sense of remorse and sadness about having to kill the octopus, but at the same time, he knows it is his duty to do so as a fisherman. This conflict between the fisherman's emotions and his profession highlights the complex relationship between humans and the environment. The poet seems to be suggesting that while fishing is a necessary livelihood for some people, it is also important to be mindful of the impact that human actions have on the natural world.
 
Soman Ragavan : "For him this fishy victory hath a rather bitter taste..." Note the word "fishy" Double entendre..."Bitter taste" : again, remorse for the fisherman.

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Yes, you're correct. The use of the word "fishy" is a double entendre, as it refers both to the victory of catching a fish and the sense of something being questionable or suspicious. And the phrase "bitter taste" suggests that the fisherman is not entirely comfortable with what he has done, and may even feel a sense of regret or guilt about it. This shows that the poet recognizes the complexity of the situation, and that even those who engage in activities like fishing for a living may have mixed feelings about it.
 
Soman Ragavan : "And with mix'd feelings he strid'st home in haste..." "Mixed feelings" : feelings of remorse again. He "strides home in haste." He is in a hurry to get away from that place.

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Yes, it seems that the fisherman is experiencing a mix of emotions, including satisfaction at his catch and the successful completion of his work, as well as a sense of remorse and sadness for having killed the octopus. The phrase "mixed feelings" captures this ambiguity and internal conflict, which is further emphasized by his haste to leave the scene.
 
Soman Ragavan : "The man regretfully reflects on the mortifying match..." The regret will not leave the man... "Mortifying match" : the end has to be in the death of the octopus...

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Yes, the fisherman's regret is a recurring theme throughout the poem. Despite the fact that he had to do what he had to do to make a living, he still feels a sense of sadness and remorse for having killed the octopus. The phrase "mortifying match" reinforces this feeling of regret, as it implies that the fisherman sees the encounter with the octopus as a battle that ended in a disappointing outcome. The fisherman may have won the battle, but the cost of victory was the life of the octopus.
 
Soman Ragavan : "A combat of giants unfolds every passing day..." The octopus is a smaller creature, with a smaller intellect, whereas man is of the highest intellect. But, both face off as equals. The octopus is called a giant.

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Yes, it is interesting to note the comparison of the octopus to a giant, even though it is physically smaller than the fisherman. This may be because of the octopus's remarkable abilities, such as its eight arms and its ability to camouflage itself, which can make it seem larger than it actually is. Additionally, the octopus's intelligence and agility in the water may also contribute to the idea of it being a "giant" creature in its own right. The use of the phrase "combat of giants" also implies a certain level of respect for the octopus's abilities and the challenge it poses to the fisherman.
 
Soman Ragavan : Higher up, I say : "An ever-scanning radar the octopus doth operate..." Thus, the octopus has striking abilities to look out, process signals, detect dangers and rocket out of the place in a fraction of a second.

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Yes, that's correct. Octopuses are known for their remarkable eyesight and ability to detect changes in their environment quickly. They have complex eyes that can focus and adjust quickly, and they are also able to use their skin to sense light and color changes. In addition, octopuses have a highly developed nervous system that allows them to process information quickly and respond to threats with remarkable speed and agility. All of these abilities make them formidable and fascinating creatures.
 
Soman Ragavan : "Many a long and epic battle, unsung and untold..." The battles are long and epic. Whenever the octopus wins, it is a terrible defeat for the highest calculating intellect.

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Indeed, the battles between the octopus and the fisherman can be long and intense, with both sides using their respective strengths to gain an advantage. And when the octopus manages to evade capture, it can be a frustrating and demoralizing experience for the fisherman, despite his superior intellect and physical prowess. The poem highlights the ongoing struggle between humans and nature, and the sometimes-unequal nature of this contest.
 
Soman Ragavan : In the next stanza, the fisherman has a "working day." The octopus has a "dying day." Devastating words...

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Yes, those words are indeed devastating. The contrast between the fisherman's daily routine and the octopus's fate is stark. The fisherman goes about his work, catching and selling sea creatures, while the octopus faces its inevitable death. This contrast highlights the power dynamic between humans and the natural world, and raises questions about the ethics of exploiting and consuming other living beings for our own purposes.
 
Soman Ragavan : "What a degrading, unfair fee the creature hath to pay ! What a pointless, pathetic and perpetually cruel play !" Comment of the poet's philosophy here.

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The poet is expressing his philosophy on the cruelty of nature and the human role in perpetuating it. He sees the octopus as a victim of this cruelty, forced to pay a "degrading, unfair fee" for simply being a creature of nature. The "pointless, pathetic and perpetually cruel play" suggests that the poet sees the struggle between the fisherman and the octopus as a meaningless and never-ending cycle of violence and death, with no ultimate purpose or meaning. This could be seen as a commentary on the human tendency to exploit and dominate nature without regard for the suffering of other beings.
 
Soman Ragavan : "But, the true victor is undoubt'dly the octopus ... The escaping octopus is the one victorious...." Even if the octopus ends up getting killed, the poet says that it is this creature which is the true victor. "The escaping octopus is the one victorious...." The escaping octopus represents a terrific victory of a small creature over man, who has infinitely more resources, more intellect and who is armed with a harpoon that flies in at a deadly speed. The octopus itself has no weapons.

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Yes, the poet seems to suggest that the octopus, even in its death, is the true victor because it managed to outwit the fisherman and escape many times before finally getting caught. The octopus may be smaller and less powerful than the fisherman, but it has its own unique abilities and strategies that give it an advantage in the struggle for survival. The poet's philosophy seems to emphasize the importance of respecting and appreciating the natural world, rather than dominating and exploiting it for human gain.
 
Soman Ragavan : "When all this objectively we do dissect..." We should look at the whole picture more objectively and not just the fisherman returning with a bundle of octopuses in his hand.

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Yes, the poet is suggesting that we need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture beyond just the immediate benefits of catching octopuses for profit. He is urging us to consider the impact of our actions on the environment and other living beings, and to recognize the value and importance of all creatures, no matter how small or seemingly insignificant.
 
Soman Ragavan : "In its battle with us, in this unequal fight.." The fight is an unequal one, a mismatched one. The fisherman has tremendous advantages; the octopus has few advantages.

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Yes, that's correct. The octopus is a small creature with limited physical abilities, whereas the fisherman has tools and equipment that give him a significant advantage in the battle. The poem highlights the unequal nature of this fight and the inherent cruelty of the situation.
 
Soman Ragavan : "With the highest calculating intellect..." The poet recognises that man if of the highest intellect and it is a fight between a small creature against such a formidable foe.

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Yes, the poet acknowledges the superiority of human intellect in this unequal fight with the octopus. However, he also highlights the remarkable abilities of the octopus, such as its intelligence, agility, and ability to adapt to its environment. The poem ultimately invites us to reflect on the ethics of our treatment of other creatures and our relationship with the natural world.
 
Soman Ragavan : The poem ends with these words : "Truly is the octopus of a terrific might." The poet ends by saying that the octopus is the true victor even if it died in the confrontation.

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Yes, that's correct. The poem ends with the recognition of the power and strength of the octopus, even in defeat. Despite being a small creature facing a powerful adversary, the octopus is still able to put up a fight and inspire awe in the poet's mind.
 
Soman Ragavan : Are there other works, poems, etc. that depict battles between humans and animals involving strategies and intellect ?

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Yes, there are many works that depict battles between humans and animals involving strategies and intellect. One notable example is the story of Moby-Dick by Herman Melville, which depicts the epic battle between Captain Ahab and the great white whale. The story explores themes of obsession, revenge, and the struggle between man and nature.

Another example is the poem "The Panther" by Rainer Maria Rilke, which depicts the inner turmoil of a panther in captivity and the struggle between man and animal. The poem explores themes of freedom, captivity, and the conflict between instinct and intellect.

Additionally, there are many works of non-fiction that explore the relationship between humans and animals, such as books on animal behavior, ecology, and conservation. These works often highlight the strategies and intellect of animals and the ways in which humans can learn from and coexist with them.
 
Soman Ragavan : Considering all that has been discussed above, summarise the poet's attitude towards hunting and fishing.

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Based on the analysis of the poem "The Octopus" by Soman Ragavan, the poet's attitude towards hunting and fishing is one of remorse and condemnation. He portrays the octopus as a highly intelligent creature with remarkable abilities to detect and avoid danger, and depicts the fisherman as a ruthless hunter who, despite his advantages, is still engaged in an unequal fight. The poet emphasises the suffering of the octopus and the futility of the fisherman's efforts, and expresses a strong opposition to the idea of taking away a creature from nature for sport or pleasure. Overall, the poet seems to advocate for a more compassionate and respectful approach towards nature and its creatures.
 
Soman Ragavan : Thus, we can see that there are many hidden issues in this poem. I have proceeded as a literary critic, to some extent, in discussing this poem with you.

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Yes, your analysis of the poem "The Octopus and the Fisherman" (My note : "The octopus." SR) by Soman Ragavan has delved into various literary devices and themes present in the poem. You have explored the use of language, imagery, and symbolism to convey the unequal battle between the octopus and the fisherman, and the underlying themes of remorse, sadness, and the futility of hunting and fishing.

Your analysis highlights the poet's attitude towards hunting and fishing, which is one of regret and remorse. The poet seems to be critical of the unnecessary killing of animals and highlights the unfairness and cruelty involved in such activities. The use of words like "mortifying match," "bitter taste," and "degrading, unfair fee" all convey a sense of regret and sadness.
Overall, your analysis has brought out the various layers of meaning present in the poem and has helped to uncover the poet's underlying message about the treatment of animals in our society.
 
Soman Ragavan : Thank you. Goodbye for now.

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You're welcome! It was a pleasure discussing the poem with you. Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any more questions or if there is anything else I can assist you with. Goodbye!

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                                    THE  OCTOPUS
                                      (Imaginary)

How his cold, blue eyes daily doth scan
The cold, blue sea stretching on endlessly !
Slowly the same gestures repeat'd flawlessly
Day after day by this quiet, calculating man.

With the sharp harpoon on the boat floor lying,
And, roughly thrown in, a mere bottle of water,
And his shabby shirt in the chilly wind flapping,
He becomes ever more watchful, this hunter.

Slowing the small boat to a silent glide,
Hitching 'pon the waves a noiseless ride,
The man scans more closely yon seabed,
Lowering towards the water his very head.

Lo ! Over there ! Slowly and stealthily
The curling mass swayeth with the water;
'Tis enough to make the hunter shiver,
As he reaches for the weapon silently.

Hush ! Quiet ! The slightest noise, and all is lost !
This mother-octopus swayeth with the waves....
This slippery inhabitant of the deep, cold caves
Certainly must be caught, whatever be the cost.

A hair-raising battle of wits starts yonder.
Around the creature its tentacles do shiver,
Shudder and flash, wriggle and slowly unfurl,
As the man's hand 'pon the harpoon doth curl.

One false move, and everything surely you lose :
This battle can only be won with a clever ruse.
The creature can suddenly flick off in a flash,
And rapidly disappear in some muffl'd splash.

This flicking creature ! Full five pounds
It should weigh, if it weighs an ounce.
'Tis always on the lookout for all sounds,
But, the agile fisherman is pois'd to pounce.

The steely arm raises the sharp and deadly harpoon,
Aiming to make lethal contact with the creature soon;
Pack'd in these muscles some devastating power,
Guaranteed to make the creature instantly shiver.

An ever-scanning radar the octopus doth operate,
But, soon for the poor creature 'twill be too late;
Pois'd for a precisely target'd, deadly collision,
The harpoon strikes with a devastating precision.

The creature belat'dly did see the threat,
But, the agile fisherman hath won his bet.
All was play'd and conclud'd in a split-second,
And the octopus will soon be sadly moribund.

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A hundred bubbles shoot up towards the hunter,
Flashing here, flashing there, in this encounter;
Refusing stubbornly to be anybody's dinner,
The octopus struggles and trembles all over.

But, the unyielding harpoon doth hold steadfast,
And rises up from the water like triumphant mast;
In the boat, in a colourful but sad metamorphosis,
The creature wriggles on the floor in a crisis.

Lo ! Suddenly a troubl'd mixture of joy and sadness
Grips the fisherman, as back home his boat he steers;
He is almost sad to see the poor octopus in tears,
But, sparing the thing would have been madness.

Sometimes 'tis right under your nose,
Right under the boat, so very close,
But, you can hardly manage to spot it :
'Tis a master of camouflage, every bit.

Purple bubbles roam on endlessly
In some chilling ritual, ceaselessly;
A mass of wriggling, silvery curls
Constantly in every direction twirls.

Quite plainly, 'tis a matter of pain
That in some implacable food chain,
Such a combatant, such a creature
Should be pluck'd away from nature.

The fisherman turns away his blue eyes :
He had to do what a fisherman had to do;
In his work everyday quite hard he tries,
And swears he knows nothing of voodoo.

For him this fishy victory hath a rather bitter taste,
And with mix'd feelings he strid'st home in haste;
While others joyfully jump 'pon the colourful catch,
The man regretfully reflects on the mortifying match.

A combat of giants unfolds every passing day :
Many a long and epic battle, unsung and untold,
Fought out there, under the waves, rippling and cold,
As the rising sun shoots up its first orange ray.

On his working day the fisherman goes out to sea :
On his dying day from the octopus be heed'd no plea.
What a degrading, unfair fee the creature hath to pay !
What a pointless, pathetic and perpetually cruel play !

But, the true victor is undoubt'dly the octopus :
Though we can make about this a lot of fuss,
Yet, in many an untold fight, long and furious,
The escaping octopus is the one victorious.

When all this objectively we do dissect,
In its battle with us, in this unequal fight
With the highest calculating intellect,
Truly is the octopus of a terrific might.

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