How does one write poetry?
Does it require rhythm?
How could one not mention rhyme?
However, what makes it real.
Cause relatability?
That sure is necessary.
I'm sure that can't be it though.
The answer I really want
Is this considered poetry?
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Great poem!
Thanks
My perspective all writings can be considered poetry, poem raises a good point because a lot people do ask that question, enjoyed the read.
that is an interesting view point but what would that not make literally everything poetry which would also mean poetry does not exist because everything is considered to be it? My question more is, why have the distinction of calling something poetry at all?
I think it probably has something to do more with the music term Americana. Americana means any form of music influenced by Western Civilization, which includes African American music because it became mainstream in America influencing the blues and jazz and stuff. However the distinction of Americana only has one use, to differ it from Eastern music. It is so encompassing it almost means nothing, but at least it still differs. If poetry though encompasses all, why do we call some things poetry and some things just an essay?
It'd be interesting to here your thoughts on this, I'm just curious to get to the bottom of what poetry actually is
Excellent write
Read, read, read the poets of centuries ago, if you listen closely, you may discover why I insist the poets came from the ancient prophets. Yes, I'd call your post poetry, but I carnot delineate why. Hopefully that still makes elusive sense.
Thanks for the advice, I think I'll take you up on that. Any specific suggestions? I have a good sense of Latin, should I be reading like Virgil in the original Latin kinda thing? Or are there great English authors I should look to that you\'d suggest, as often when a poem is translated it loses half its meaning
I personally studied David M. Main's anthology Treasury of English Sonnets for one. Since you've more ability, try yes, Virgil, Camoens, Dante, etc. Shelley's Ode to the West Wind set against his biography makes both more sense, yet also proves my point, in part, I think. Poetry is not superficial but layered and complex, with a clear message. Or you may correct me.
I\'ll begin my dive! Thanks for the advice. I think you\'re right though in saying it\'s very layered and complex. Words that are fluffy often distract. If they add layer to the poem they bring out something beautiful, but often words can be distracting if they\'re there to look superficial
Not all that glitters is gold, likewise as you note, not all that feigns itself poetry is.
One of my favourite writers talks about sin like a golden scorpion, it's a weird analogy but so good. We are drawn in by the "splendor" that we choose to ignore the venemous sting in the back, which kills us.
In a similar way though I don't want to consume as my mother would say in terms of literature, "junk food". The stuff that just feels appealing but doesn't fill you up at all, doesn't sharpen the intellect or draw us to anything higher, though I probably have written plenty that's considered junk food myself. There's a time and a place for it, just like there's a time and a place for Doritos. So I'm grateful for you giving some good suggestions to start the journey of reading some guaranteed great poetry so I can also learn to distinguish between the junk and the steak, as I don't know if I could tell you if I was digesting steak or a PBJ.
I fell in love with so many of the sonneteers whose work is given by mere halves in Main's anthology. Chasing them down when I'd half the ability, by purchasing or attempting to acquire their complete works was a fitting eye-opener, worth the trouble, and leaving me a tad wiser.
I recently heard someone say something along the lines of poetry being the use of language not shackled by its own rules
I think there is some truth in that statement, for sure, but only to an extent. There certainly is leeway in writing poetry, saying things differently that what we're used to saying them to fit them inside or rythm or to emphasis a point, but some rules need to be followed. It's more acceptable in poetry to leave things as phrases, something without a verb, etc. however, just because somethong is unshackled, doesn't make it poetry. I think I'd consider it an accidental property not a substantial property. For instance, I could say, "I bread the consume, crusty". That is unshackled from the conventional way of how it would have been said, I consume the crusty bread, or the crusty bread I consume.
The point is I don't think just being unshackled makes it poetry, though it is certainly allowed in various aspects.
Thanks for the insight though, I think we're getting closer to a more precise view of it now!
I good points. I think the key difference then might be the feeling that’s being expressed behind it; so our new simple definition; poetry is language unshackled from its own rules, utilized as an artistic vehicle of expression. Try that on for size haha
I think that's closer but I think this is how I'd currently define poetry. Poetry is the vocal expression of words phrased in a way to guide us to higher knowledge than the blanket knowledge we're familiar with.
I'm leaving my guitar behind on break. That's sad. However I can use words expressed in a way that lead to better understanding of how that makes me feel instead of the blanket knowledge you know of, Spencer's sad. (You can read the poem Bereft of, if you wish to see what I mean). I think the definition might still need some hammering out. But it doesn't need to follow rule structures IF and only IF it is leading to a deeper understanding through it. Same thing with adjectives that are fully and fancy. If they don't lead to higher understanding, then it isn't a poetical insert. If it DOES lead to something unexpressed before then it is poetical. I don't know. Let me know your thoughts on this comment, my brain isn't working now and I'm about to take a final, so we'll see what happens....
Ah yes i like this take a lot
Yes it is
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