Hectoring Haikus

Doggerel Dave

‘It’s so hard’ – no way

Excrementally easy

Subtlety unknown

 

And let’s be quite sure

No room for complexity

Quick wisecrack, O K?

 

I can burble on

Found me a seven, this one

Now a five – I’m done 

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  • Priya Tomar

    Good write .

  • orchidee

    It takes all of about 23 seconds to read some of my poems on NS themes. Why do people waste those seconds reading garbage?! lol.

    • Doggerel Dave

      Too much time on their hands, mate. You have cornered the market.

    • arqios

      Love it! when the flow is swinging articulation, the meaning springs forth🙏🏻🕊️

      • Doggerel Dave

        Now because a message can transmute itself somewhere between sender and it's receipt, I have to ask: What manner of meaning did you receive?

        Thanks for your support, mate.

        • arqios

          A Hector marching along the walls of Troy, persistent and unrelenting; in their scenario scolding people about their flagrant laziness in spewing haiku (in English) sans depth and thought and passion. Something like that🤩🙏🏻🕊️

          • Doggerel Dave

            Well after researching Homer and Hector (how much to do with 'hectoring' - a puzzle?) I came to the conclusion that that may well fit the bill, so to speak....😜

          • sorenbarrett

            Now Dave the reason I don't do many Haikus. This poetic format should be even more complex than what most judge. A few traditional requirements that most neglect:

            Structure: Three lines totaling 17 syllables, usually organized in a 5, 7, 5 pattern.
            Theme: Traditionally focuses on nature, the seasons, or a specific, fleeting moment.
            Kigo (Season Word): A word or phrase that hints at the season, grounding the poem in nature.
            Kireji (Cutting Word): A pause or break in the poem, usually in the middle, created by punctuation (like an em dash or ellipsis) to create contrast or juxtaposition.
            Imagery: Uses clear, simple imagery rather than complex metaphors or rhyme.
            Economy: The poem should be concise, ideally read in one breath.

            • Doggerel Dave

              Well then they might do
              The rest you'll find is bullshit
              Locally, no go

              (37 seconds plus a three second edit)

              • sorenbarrett

                Touché my friend

                • Doggerel Dave

                  Well Soren, it was and it wasn't. The motivation which put those particulars up there and my response could be categorised as your Touché; however the information you provided, presumably properly researched was of interest, though of virtually no relevance to what appears on this site. Thanks for the contribution anyway.

                  • sorenbarrett

                    Dave you and I know that many if not children trying to do a haiku are people that don't understand the format or rules like a person that calls it a sonnet with out a rhyming last couplet. If fact my friend what many call free style are not poems at all but simple gripes or letters and some not even with proper spelling or grammar that is called poetic license when there is no poetic reason for the errors. Oh well my friend I toast your effort

                    • Doggerel Dave

                      Agreed. Stick that up there as a separate post will ya? Just a very slim sprinkling of metaphors, so the message is clear; not a bucket full!😜

                      • sorenbarrett

                        Was always taught the metaphors are a sieve letting through only what people can digest

                        • Doggerel Dave

                          Nah, to me a metaphor can sometimes be a sneaky way of dressing up a......... oh you know we have had this debate before...

                        • MendedFences27

                          Clever.And I enjoyed the unity of thought in this trio.

                          • Doggerel Dave

                            Thanks Phil - just between you and me, the three 5-7-5's came very easily, but there were a couple of shuffles...

                          • Cheeky Missy

                            Prithee whatever did you do with the wealth of a day left to your own devices?!

                            • Doggerel Dave

                              Ah - that would be telling...

                            • Paul Bell

                              Haikus in theory I thought would be quite simple, but I just read Soran's analogy and decided it was three lines of maths.
                              If it takes seconds to get it down, get it down, the bar is open and seconds count.

                              • Doggerel Dave

                                Yeh, 5-7-5's (forget the haiku term and Soren's information - I and most contributors to this page are not immersed in the Japanese language) are a quick way to get something up before the pub doors open - excellent strategy.



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