Here we go!!
The christian churches say it is illegal!
It stops peoples lawful rights
In stopping people meeting in church!
They are taking it to the courts in the land,
But if their god and their beliefs are true,
And their beliefs are real,
Their christian god would not have allowed,
Not allowed this to happen.
Despite all their prayers
Covid has spread,
No amount of praying has stopped it.
So are their beliefs wrong?
Or do they believe that their god
Wants to spread this disease,
And kill all the people who go to church!
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Goldfinch60 (Pseudonym) (
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- Comment from author about the poem: My belief in the christian church died when my wife, a lifelong churchgoer, was taken by dementia and then released when she passed. I have subsequently realised that organised religion is a farce and is as bad as politics.
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Things have definitely gone a foot my friend, from my own life experience it always has!
I can't thank you enough for sharing your experience over the years, as I've read your words again and again!
It let me know it's okay to go your own way, our beliefs are ours and no one else's to gain!
Like I just said in another reply to you, at the front page of my book of legends that keeps my heart true!
This art we share makes us bulletproof....
Thank you Dan, our beliefs are our own and should always be that way, we know what is right in our own lives and we should live in those ways.
Andy
Quite fitting given my posting today. If you don't accept the God premise to start with the argument becomes a pointless distraction - if you do then all the points you raise are so valid.
Thank you Michael, as you know my faith died and I am a much freer person than I was.
Andy
I agree too that 'organised religion' is a farce.
There is common sense too.
Surely meeting together when we are not to do so, is being unloving and un-Christlike? Then it changes to being tempting God - 'let's try Him out; see if He will protect us when we still meet these days'.
So god is above the law the, it is not unloving, that love is always there but must be shown in different ways at present.
Andy
I think some of it (not all of it) is a judgement for our cruelty to animals - where the Covid thing started off.
There is much good done to animals too though - RSPCA, PDSA, etc.
A blessing in disguise, minimally? Yorkshire Ripper caught it. Comments of 'rot in hell' followed his death.
Andy - Like flash mobs do you? Here's an oldie that I hope you and orchidee might enjoy - if you haven't already seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXh7JR9oKVE&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=AlphabetPhotographyInc.
(go straight to utube and popthelink in there)
look after yourselves Dave
PS: not entering into any religious discussion today, thank you!
Those Flash Mobs are great aren't they, mind you in this case there didn't seem to be many people there apart from the choir. I have sung the Messiah, I am in three choirs and in one of them we sang that last Christmas (oops I've used the C word before December, please forgive me).
Take care
Andy
GOOD MORNING UNCLE ANDY ~ Thnaks for sharing Carmina Barunda. It is very dynamic and it went down well @ College when they performed it as part of their Christmas Program ! Love improptu performances & Flash Mobs ~ AMEN. Because we are Young & Blessed ~ and were raised in Devout Christian Homes we have a strong personal Christian Faith. Our Faith is important in our day to day life and we receive Guidence from the Scriptures - Fellowship & Prayer. WE cant blame God for Gobal Warming (and its consequences) it is Anthropogenic (aggrevated by Leaders like Trump who put the Economy before the Environment !) and We must (& can) reduce it by reducing CO2 etc. Angela & I have studied Biochemistry and (to some extent) CORVID 19 is also Anthropogenic. *Live Meat Markets* in unhygenic coditions ~ Mans greed for cheap PROTEIN with no regard for *Animal Welfare or Hygeine*. Sow a Wind reap a Whirlwind ! God created MAN with the intellectual Capacity (& Responsibility) to control the Environment ~ because of Greed - Selfishness & Ignorance ~ Man is failing badly. We respect your rejection of the Chrian Faith (which was big Part of Your & Joyces lives) because our Faith has not been tested (yet) to that extent. You (and al Your Family) are in our Prayers and we are encouraged by your Positive Belief the Joyce & Yourself will once again be reunited in the Spiritual Dimension were Joyce now is. Virology can solve the problemof COVID 19 and in the Year (2021) a vaccine will be produced Globally & normality resstored ~ AMEN. We just *Hope & Pray* that we learn by all our Mistakes. Does Mankind really undestand ? *If we destroy Planet Earth ~ There is NOWHERE ELSE to BOLDLY GO* ! Science FACT is a billion miles away from Science FICTION ~ Amen ~ Thanks for caring & sharing
Blessings & Peace to YOU & YOURS
Love ~ Angela Brian & Smokey 💛💛💛
Historically the organised christian churches, especially that catholic bunch, have taken time to catch up and change their rules. Things the churches tortured and killed for have now become OK by them. That in itself shows just how false their set of beliefs and rules are.
But there again, these churches were set up by men who wanted to (and succeeded in) controlling an uneducated and ignorant people in the days when the world was flat.
Their spin on spiritual matters is definitely full of falsehoods but still some parents are so stupid that they allow their children to be brainwashed into a fearful belief of the christian churches way.
Well, let the fools congregate, that'll thin them out a bit..... and get christians ostracised by the public.
Well said d a but if people believe in their own god and see the only way to talk to that good is in church the church will try and change their beliefs, and in this way kill them in spite of their real belief.
Andy
I recognise the disdain emanating from your words, I know it well.
Like all ‘Industry’s’, push comes to shove: when profits are down, moral decency, restraint and common-sense reasoning: ‘is dashed out - da window!’
The quicker we humanity ‘Dissociate’ faith from religion, the simpler it will be to ignore all the BS that clouds and frustrates.
My 'two cents worth' suggestion to help decipher between the two are:
'Faith', is a system of belief (usually at individual level), designed to support and provide tangible ‘trust’ in something/anything greater than the morosely dreary - that is reality.
'Religion', is a self-sustaining industry that trades in the one commodity we humanity can never get enough of, or ever - run out of: 'Hope'. Newly or well established organised institution’s in that market provide services and trade their version of 'Hope' in exchange for 'charitably - untaxed, donations'.
Though subtle, there is a profound difference. One may have ‘Faith’ and be without religion or one may have ‘Faith’ that the religion of choice provides the best ‘Hope’ for their personal salvation.
So, I agree with the sentiments in your write Andy (for what it’s worth), but targeting one ‘Industry leading entity’ for being the ‘best/worst’ is tantamount to provoking reactionary defensive mentality’s, that yields nothing more: than ever more entrenched ‘stubbornness’, from those who refuse to hear/see logical reasoning: that their chosen 'Religion' (any & all) isn't deserving of the 'blind Hope' they entrust it with, it must ever be questioned and it's human frailties held accountable.
Every entity within the industry of religion, claims their ‘Hope’ will make their believer’s more immune to all the bad in our reality, that is at the core of their sales pitch.
All I advise is we discuss incendiary subject’s/topics, however freely - with broad brush strokes. Let’s try and not devolve into the ‘us & them’ battled fields of ‘Amygdala’ driven - reactionary mindsets and have MPS consumed by the minority who can’t tolerate opposing ideologies.
Anyway, I’m sorry for waffling-on in your comments section, every time I write something like this I promise to not ‘get involved’ but then I see the tell-tale signs of opposite side’s - squaring up on their peremptory battle fields and I sigh: watching history repeat in real-time.
I personally, choose to have 'Faith', that we human's are more than our deficiency's and the underlying 'Hope' we have in 'Love' can always insure 'common sense' will prevail: however belatedly and costly, that may sadly be...
Such a profound comment LB. I used to be part of the christian organisation, I was a Chaplain at one time but when my wife was taken by dementia and eventually passed I had to question organised religion and when I gave up it was like a huge weight had been lifted.
I still have Faith in My Spirit and that will never change, it is organised religion that I see as leading people up a garden path.
Andy
I enjoyed the poem. While I have long given up on the idea of a transcendent being or even a discernable purpose, I do, however, enjoy ritual especially if accompanied by music.
Yes music does bring joy to ritual.
Andy
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