Doggerel Dave

Manifesto or Look Beyond the Name.

 

Manifesto

 

I, disputatious, a contrarian,

Atheist agnostic and humanist

And further a longtime vegetarian

Must add to that role call: amoralist.

 

(But you find that outrageous, much too rough?)

I’ve no trust in shared values since my youth:

When lies are heard persistently enough

They manage to become a social truth.

 

It’s the whole culture with which I’m at odds:

Scornful of the way its strictures perform

I’m provoked to reject conformist nods

To society’s norms when no reform.

 

Now during a long life I’ve never known

Any good or right reasons to shift at all.

So there’s no option but this truth I own:

Liberation– nothing else makes first call.

 

Comments9

  • Fay Slimm.

    Liberation has first place with all those who refuse to be sheep without backbone - - thanks for these well-chosen few words that birth the benefits of being true to yourself my friend.

    • Doggerel Dave

      Thanks for the response, Fay - I was wondering if I'd get any.
      No more posts this side of New Year. Then I'll be back to yarns with rhyme for a while...
      Regards Dave

    • Amon

      You should be my writing mentor.
      Execllent

      • Doggerel Dave

        Thanks Amon - flattery will get you nowhere my....poetic comrade.
        But feel free to correspond here anytime. Also look at my profile - if this poem doesn't,. then that should tell you what to expect.

        Dave

      • The Uneducated O.A.P

        "When lies" etc what a great couple of lines, and there's words iv never heard before. Lol
        Nice one, no, just read it again, it's more than a nice one
        Take care
        Bill

        • Doggerel Dave

          Thanks Bill - most of those words have a long history - many meanings hanging off each one.
          I did put a lot of sweat into that one, so it's great that It's appreciated.

          Take it easy,
          Dave

          • The Uneducated O.A.P

            I see you are leaving us for a while, don't stay away too long will ya.
            Seasons greetings
            Bill

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          • Michael Edwards

            And its a yes from me (loud applause) !!

            • Doggerel Dave

              Thanks very muchly, Michael.
              So with four 'yeses' I'm on to the next round?
              I fear failure lurks just around the corner.... I'll get booed off sometime or other - see if I don't.
              Dave

            • Goldfinch60

              Liberation should be there for us all. A very meaningful poem Dave, we are all what we have made ourselves to be and hopefully that person will be good in this world in which we now live.

              Andy

              • Doggerel Dave

                Thanks Andy. I hope I'm good in the world - at least I try to be. I was going to add that it was for others to judge - but can I take that back? It is for me to judge and be hard on myself. No one else can do that.

                Dave
                P.S. Believe it or not I've changed this poem by one word - In accordance with L.B.'s advice to keep revising, I've changed 'grounds' to 'reasons' - which works better, I think. (the amount of time spent with this poem....)

              • L. B. Mek

                Brilliant!
                when we learn to hear that voice of free thought emanating from ourselves: we need not seek any external validation, no titles to be pigeon-holed and oppressed with,
                behold nature's intended Liberty: (as your wise words have eloquently distilled - so appetisingly relatable) is a birthright we need only excavate from within - to own: out right!
                only then may we finally begin those much needed open dialogues of humanity's introspection and find a foothold to a path of undoing our inherited wrongdoing's, maybe even - some accidental healing...
                have a good rest oh wise Poet, I look forward to your revitalised return,
                let me offer you a slightly early season's greeting and a happy new year!
                🍾🥂🥂🍾🥂🥂😊😁🤣
                😰😰😱😖😩🤕🤕🤕
                🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
                🙄😎🍾🥂😳✌👌
                lmao (emoji art: as foreshadowing insight!)

                • Doggerel Dave

                  Thanks for your much valued comment, L.B.
                  All that really is me. However on another level I do wonder…
                  Quite early I came upon Buddha’s “Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” If I’m honest I must tell you that this underlies much of where I’m at here.
                  It worked for me. But for everyone? Oh please!
                  Then I have to take a position in relation to Communitarianism or community and/or individualism…which leaves me in a bit of an awkward spot: Too much individualism would appear to be a significant factor in the rise of populism – and look where that has lead a certain country I won’t name for fear of offending some members of MPS who may still feel patriotic.
                  And so it goes…

                  Regards
                  Dave

                  • L. B. Mek

                    I think here I would lean on the wise words of Confucius to best articulate my point on individuality vs community (but like all things, the answer is in finding a balance that negates the conflict between opposing answers/paths to any single question), Confucius:
                    'To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must first put the family in order; to put the family in order; we must first cultivate our personal life; we must first set our hearts right.'
                    (and one last tidbit of usefulness on subject of others vs ourselves)
                    'I am not bothered by the fact that I am not understood. I am bothered when I do not know others.'
                    my own interpretation to his deceptively simple wisdom, is somewhat blunt: in aeroplane emergency situations we are advised to place our own oxygen masks before we try and help other's, if we have the humility to follow this rule, we not only save ourselves but we are more likely to helps others,
                    ergo if we apply the same mindset in more general terms it's more likely we become a better member of a community by positioning ourselves in a stable foundation, at the very least we avoid being an additional burden and in most cases we go on to be a useful cog within our chosen community.
                    Sadly, though life tends to just fuck with us, some more than other's it seems and we instead - choose, to utilise external problems/situations (community etc) as an escape from our own bullshit - somewhat understandably.
                    Still, if we can openly address such matters, then we are at least aware and actively trying to find our own solutions.
                    As you said: and so it goes...

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                  • Robert Haigh

                    This poem brought the following thoughts to mind: We should all be free to think our own thoughts, and essentially say what we want (whilst being mindful of the laws of slander and libel). I distrust all politicians, and I now know that virtually every news agency has its own agenda. Even the venerable BBC is guilty of political spin! Recent anti-lockdown protest marches in England (resulting in several hundred arrests -- and all the journalists and photographers who were trying to cover these events were also threatened with arrest!) has been virtually ignored by the BBC (leaned on by the government?). I may not agree with the protesters, but they have a right to protest, and we have a right to know about it! Continue to be a free spirit, Dave!

                    • Doggerel Dave

                      Thanks Robert. Again the situation you describe is complex with no clear cut answers.
                      IF your proposition is correct, ie the protesters were given minimal coverage by the BBC, then I would want to know why. Perhaps the protesters were very small in number and their publicity would have given disproportionate coverage to their cause, and thus lead impressionable minds to believe they were right and model their behaviour accordingly - to everyone's detriment.
                      Regards, Dave

                      • Robert Haigh

                        The protests were very large, Dave. Almost 200 people were arrested in London alone, out of thousands of marchers, and there were a number of equally big marches elsewhere. The Home Secretary, Priti Patel, contacted EVERY police force in England, telling them she expected the organisers of the marches (where known) to be arrested. Some police chiefs said they were unhappy with this, as it was too draconian. I found all this out from other news sources, not the BBC.

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                      • Neville


                        I tried to pull something both cerebral and witty out of thin air, but at 04.00 in the morning and freezing cold here.. I gave up and settled for a much more conventional.... I can almost wholly relate to these words Dave .. almost ...

                        • Doggerel Dave

                          Hey Neville - why are you up at four am in order to attempt to put the world to rights? What are you - a shift worker or something? I can relate to that - I did shift work once (see contribution in 2021), or is it insomnia? Either way, all that is not good for your health.Take more care please - I could be wrong, but I think MPS needs you (what about a poster from Michael, complete with pointing finger?) But before I forget...........Send just a sliver of that freezing cold over, could you? Could do with a little right now.

                          Regards Dave
                          P.S. Any update/elaboration available on 'almost'?

                          • Neville

                            Ha.. Good mane to you Dave .. I am up because on call and involved in crisis work for people experiencing mental health difficulties during this bloomin pandemic ..

                            I am actually an early .. very early I might add retired clinical specialist in psychiatry .. Am hoping to pop over your neck o the woods next year , with a bit of luck ... almost is a relative concept innit .. or nearly 🙂

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                          • MendedFences27

                            When you walk in the woods, you seek a path, a more direct way forward. This is true of how customs become what they are, the easiest way forward, but there are others (explorers) who choose the more difficult path and find great rewards while risking great defeats.
                            A thought provoking write. It exemplifies that explorer spirit. A lot of great people were non conformists. _ Phil A.

                            • Doggerel Dave

                              Thanks for that Phil. You hauled it out of my dump and polished it up for me.
                              As you can see, though, from my the extended dialogue above with L.B., there are other considerations, even as I stand by every word in 'Manifesto'
                              Thanks again,
                              Dave



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