VIEWS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF FENCE

Michael Edwards

 

 

VIEWS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF FENCE

 

Nearly every day the site carries poetry in praise of religion but I can’t recall seeing anything written from a humanist perspective so I thought I’d reverse the trend if only for one day with these shorties which come to me in fits and starts. There is no offence intended any more than offence is intended by the religious poets who contribute here.

 

1)

Humanist views are rarely defended

so that believers can’t claim they’re offended.

 

 

(2)

The bible is true

Oh! But not the parables

Subtle cherry picking

 

 

(3)

For all the good things, praise be to god

but not the bad things, now isn’t that odd.

 

 

(4)

Why do they quote from

a book of assertions

when asked for the facts?

 

 

(5)

Christian, non-Christian

believer, non-believer

religious, non-religious

So derogatory

So negative.

 

Humanist, non-Humanist

agnostic, non-agnostic

atheist, non-atheist

that’s better

 

(And note the capital ‘H’ )

 

 

 

 

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Comments7

  • orchidee

    Liking this, understanding what you mean. Number 3 - yes, there are 'fair-weather Christians' about - me included sometimes.
    Miss Berles sitting on the fence? Is it painful for her? Will she get splinters?! lol.

    • Michael Edwards

      She probably will - must give her a gentle nudge. But which direction?

      • orchidee

        Did she fall or was she pushed? as they say.

      • dusk arising

        This chap Hugh has a lot going for him.

        A touchy subject this religious stuff. As you well know i never get involved in discussing it!

        Oh I've tried but a remarkable deafness seems to overtake the preacher types.

        I do particularly like (3).

        • Michael Edwards

          Yes a difficult subject - though it does seem okay for believers to berate humanists but never the other way round.

          • dusk arising

            Of course i was only kidding to say i never get involved - i do have a go at the one's who are so much holier than the rest of us that they like to preach in mps. I am so disappointed in their general lack of knowledge of the history of the bible and what exactly it is having become mistranslated and altered so much over it's years of existence. Ho-hum so much I could say but..... hope you are having a pleasant spring day.

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          • Doggerel Dave

            You got my vote, Michael:

            https://mypoeticside.com/show-poem-124909

            However, I've never knocked the religious here, in fact I've had very respectful conversations with a couple - they have a right to their faith if that's what it takes to lead a full useful life - provided they don't attempt to control anyone else's freedom.

            • Michael Edwards

              The knocking does seem to be in one doirection only - I suspect this won't be read by our religious friends here on MPS (except Orchi of course who is a real gent) but if it is it'll be interesting to see if they leave any comments.

            • L. B. Mek

              let them be, my friend
              in the word of Bukowski:
              'and the best at murder are those who preach against it
              and the best at hate are those who preach love
              and the best at war finally are those who preach peace

              those who preach god, need god
              those who preach peace do not have peace
              those who preach peace do not have love

              beware the preachers
              beware the knowers'
              ( https://mypoeticside.com/show-classic-poem-4332 )
              (for its that very conflict
              they strive for, remember
              nothing kills, their intrusively
              aggressive efforts
              like apathy's, indifference
              in the words of Plath:
              'tea leaves thwart
              those who court catastrophe, designing
              futures where nothing will occur'
              (from Ennui, by Sylvia Plath)
              let them, be
              for this merely, their zealotry's
              death cries
              for Voltaire, finished them off
              a few centuries ago, already...
              let them be
              just watch-on, and pity their plight
              while praying
              there's enough mercy left, in our Universe
              to forgive, their wilful InHumanity
              (and yes, I meant my capital H
              for I won't, ever surrender
              our Beautiful language
              merely, because they tainted it
              by claiming it as theirs)
              Amen!

            • Rocky Lagou

              This is honestly gold! Such a fun "challenge" to religion.
              "The bible is true

              Oh! But not the parables

              Subtle cherry picking"
              Literally had me crying of laughter! You're a genius. 🙌

              • Michael Edwards

                You can't beat a bit of cynicism - thanks Rocky.

              • Goldfinch60

                Very good words Michael, as d a has said I too like 3 and it applies very much to me.

                Andy

              • Laura🌻

                Michael,

                This latin phrase comes to mind, “Suum cuique.” As a child, I believed what I was taught. As an adult, I believe in myself.

                Thank you for sharing, my dear Poet.

                Laura🌻

                • Michael Edwards

                  Suum cuique pulchrum est' We are all beautiful - thanks Laura.

                  • Laura🌻

                    Yes, indeed…we are.🤗
                    You’re most welcome, my friend.



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